If a court of law used the same standards of evidence that the ID proponents used, then the jails would have hundreds of thousands more inmates and all of them convicted on the say-so of one person with zero physical supporting evidence.
What’s even funnier is that the science proponents are more interested in testing ID than the ID proponents. The ID guys know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the one thing that they cannot allow is ID to become testable. They know, in spite of what they claim, that ID will fail miserably (as it already has) anytime it becomes actually testable.
The science proponents (including me) actually want to test this. I’d love to have a testable hypothesis for ID. I’m sure that Gary and David would too. Then we could go to the lab and the universe at large (if RK is to be believed) and do some actual work (that ID proponents haven’t ever done).
Then, we have an answer. We wouldn’t have to have this kind of multi-year discussion (multi-decade discussion) over and over again.
Test it, find an answer. Done. Or have additional questions that could be used to expand our knowledge of the world.
But no and it’s purely because the ID proponents refuse to participate. I personally have been begging to have a conversation with an ID proponent that would lead to a testable hypothesis. David has been begging RK to support his claims and try to figure out a testable hypothesis for RK’s ‘many habitable planet’s’ notion for almost a year.
But when you are dealing with people who absolutely refuse to even talk about science or facts or observations or anything else even related to a notion that is claimed to overturn over 150 years of research, there’s not much anyone can do.
It honestly doesn’t help that most of the ID proponents really don’t have a clue about science, how it works, what it does, and why it even works. Heck, even Michael Behe, who has a Ph.D. in Biochemistry has tried to redefine what science is so that ID can be included… of course, he has admitted, under oath to a federal court, that his definition of science would also include witchcraft, voodoo, and astrology (which, apparently, should also be taught in public schools, based on these claims).
Unfortunately, science education in the US has been so disrupted by a few people who can’t understand it, that we have reached this point. A point where adult citizens of the US, with Ph.D.s in a science field are claiming that astrology is science. Think about that and then ask your self why all of our electronics are made in China.